Comments on: Borderlands http://snagle.net/2006/12/27/borderlands/ Scott Nagle Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:23:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: snagle http://snagle.net/2006/12/27/borderlands/#comment-2793 snagle Mon, 01 Jan 2007 23:07:11 +0000 http://snagle.net/?p=53#comment-2793 I think you are misunderstanding me a little. I certainly did not mean to imply that the current dominance of western/US culture throughout the world is a stable state of affairs. It most certainly is not, and my original rhetorical question pondered where the inevitable antithesis might arise, with a focus on wondering where conditions are most ripe for this emergence. A valid argument is that a strong, durable antithesis might arise from within the culture, which is what I think you are suggesting. I think you are misunderstanding me a little. I certainly did not mean to imply that the current dominance of western/US culture throughout the world is a stable state of affairs. It most certainly is not, and my original rhetorical question pondered where the inevitable antithesis might arise, with a focus on wondering where conditions are most ripe for this emergence.

A valid argument is that a strong, durable antithesis might arise from within the culture, which is what I think you are suggesting.

]]> By: bknagle http://snagle.net/2006/12/27/borderlands/#comment-2791 bknagle Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:32:18 +0000 http://snagle.net/?p=53#comment-2791 Interesting thoughts. It seems to me that frontiers, borderlands, are really states of minds, an awareness of being midstream and in the midst of often and usually uncomfortable transitions. In actuality, impermanence is the name of the game, the only reality. We are always in transition, always in a borderland between what was and what will be, and that state is NOW. We are always in this situation and almost always trying to deny or escape from it rather than facing it in its richness, ambiguity, and potential, and then fruitfully embracing it. By doing the latter we can escape the suffering that otherwise is inherent in non-acceptance. The essence of all this is wisdom. I don’t agree with the hypothesis that the US has achieved a stable worldwide cultural hegemony. To be sure, many people across the globe are still trying to realize what they view as our cultural “advantages,” but it is clear to me that a major reaction is setting in and that cultural forces are moving (beyond?) in other creative directions, as yet unclear. This should not be surprising since Western culture has about reached (if it has not already moved beyond) its limit in terms of sustainability, and creative reaction is inevitable. This is not other than a predictable Hegelian dialectic, and current Western thesis and inevitable alternative antitheses will result in a new synthesis. This all represent an exciting frontier and obvious present borderland. It may, in addition, be legitimately argued that a new frontier is internal rather than external, a renewed exploration of the nature of mind and internal experience itself. This can be confusing and ephemeral in light of our current cultural values, and it is tempting and all too easy to create and postulate alternative and in a sense specious frontiers such as moon and Martian colonization, to say nothing of our seemingly endless attempt to continue to force our own cultural values on the world and create a global civilization in our own (extremely flawed) image. Interesting thoughts. It seems to me that frontiers, borderlands, are really states of minds, an awareness of being midstream and in the midst of often and usually uncomfortable transitions. In actuality, impermanence is the name of the game, the only reality. We are always in transition, always in a borderland between what was and what will be, and that state is NOW. We are always in this situation and almost always trying to deny or escape from it rather than facing it in its richness, ambiguity, and potential, and then fruitfully embracing it. By doing the latter we can escape the suffering that otherwise is inherent in non-acceptance. The essence of all this is wisdom.

I don’t agree with the hypothesis that the US has achieved a stable worldwide cultural hegemony. To be sure, many people across the globe are still trying to realize what they view as our cultural “advantages,” but it is clear to me that a major reaction is setting in and that cultural forces are moving (beyond?) in other creative directions, as yet unclear. This should not be surprising since Western culture has about reached (if it has not already moved beyond) its limit in terms of sustainability, and creative reaction is inevitable. This is not other than a predictable Hegelian dialectic, and current Western thesis and inevitable alternative antitheses will result in a new synthesis.

This all represent an exciting frontier and obvious present borderland.

It may, in addition, be legitimately argued that a new frontier is internal rather than external, a renewed exploration of the nature of mind and internal experience itself. This can be confusing and ephemeral in light of our current cultural values, and it is tempting and all too easy to create and postulate alternative and in a sense specious frontiers such as moon and Martian colonization, to say nothing of our seemingly endless attempt to continue to force our own cultural values on the world and create a global civilization in our own (extremely flawed) image.

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